I'm surprised they let him off with just probation last time SEC investigated him but i'll agree Ol George has been running the same game for years but i do have to hand it to him he has something that he has outsold more than anyone else that i know of considering how long he has been in the game and his history > it's "Shares" (smiling) > http://articles.philly.com/1996-11-04/business/25649575_1_coates-international-poppet-valves-sec-complaint