AWESOME response Rich888. THANK YOU!! It makes MUCH more sense now and I DO see how the debt holders are helping to prevent Mike form succeeding. Why does it cost money to change the websites? It is just a matter of going on there and editing. Mike said he owns them.... so the person capable of making the changes is going to CHARGE him for it? Yikes. If I was computer savvy I would get on there NOW and make the changes! It needs to be changed to reflect current state. Anyways. Thanks again Rich.... GREAT explanation.