Michael Owen, interesting post. But I must take exception on one point-we are NOT acquiring Koka. I don't know if Koka Creative or Koka Consulting are one in the same or 2 different ccompanies. But if we are doing a deal with whoever they are, it is a spin-out. The SEC defines a spin-out as when the parent company (BTZO) has a stake in the equity of the newly formed company. Hub did not say partnership, buyout, merger, reverse merger, joint venture-he said SPIN-OUT. Koka will do as they have been doing and we will be helping them and them helping us. Plus we had to come up with 3 million plus an additional 6 million plus 800,000 shares of preferred stock. So this is no charity deal for Koka-it is a money maker for them, I don't care how much now they are making. Did anyone here ever stop and wonder why HUb chose a spin-out over all these other options?