I will be the first the can the sarcasm when they post sales or a noteworthy JV. For now, I can't help myself. Telling us they have had a processor that can produce multiple Kg of product for over a year and no word of such of initial sales or JV? Then telling us they are dedicating a testing line for the automotive industry sounds like R&D (science fair)phase to me. For what it is worth, I was positive for the first 4 years.