Replies to post #11926 on Calmare Therapeutics Inc (fka CTTC)

[Vaffan-Coulo]

"I have spoken to 7 patients..."???

Did any of them have an EOB for calmare therapy from an insurance company? I'm STILL waiting for ANYONE to post a copy.

In any case, "speaking" to seven patients and three shyst...uhhhhh..."doctors" hardly constitutes a sound basis for assessing the effectiveness of a device.

Moreover, I don't believe I've ever said it doesn't work! ALL I have ever said that whatever "effectiveness" it demonstrates is due ENTIRELY to a PLACEBO effect. The device itself is NOTHING but a TENS device, and a pretty slipshod one at that. Has anyone EVER taken an oscilloscope to determine what if ANY waveforms are ACTUALLY coming out of the thing? I'm pretty much willing to bet none at all or at least none as described in Marineo's patent!

Oh, God! I just noticed another Marineo "idiocy"! He says in his patent:

"The device according to the present invention cannot use TENS electrodes because they are excessively wide, in so far as the TENS must stimulate the nerve, whereas the device according to the present invention has as target small dermatometric areas where the surface receptors of the C fibres are recruited, and not the nerve."

I don't even know where to begin! Well, FIRST, evidently he's CLAIMING you need "special" electrodes to get the thing to work correctly! That's the first I heard of that! WHERE do you get these "special" electrodes? I don't recall CTTC ever saying anything about needing special electrodes. Who makes them?

Second, NOW he's saying the device is NOT "stimulating" the nerve, but the RECEPTORS of the c-fibers? Of course, he has absolutely no proof of that since there are NO receptors for electrical signals in ANY form. Not to mention, in neuropathy, the receptors don't play much if any role. It's damaged c-fibers that have become increasingly sensitive, even to the point where they spontaneously generate action potentials WITHOUT receptor stimulus.

Nevertheless, by Marineo's description, CTTC and calmare therapists may be committing fraud by claiming they're scrambling "nerve" signals when it's actually working on non-existent "receptors"!