What is long enough. I bought this stock at .0108, as my average cost. That was almost a year ago. I look at my ETRADE account, and it says that I lost 96% of my initial investment. That means that for every $100 that I invested last spring, I lost 96 of them, and have only $4 left out of every $100! They say time is money, and the money I lost on UTRM is definitely long enough to have formed the opinion I have of it. Empty promise, after empty promise.