That may be true Bill, but that is for Pump and Dumps, with companies with no fundamentals. There are many traders on here who could not care less about fundamentals, and they are trading based on their strategies... which is fine.
In my opinion, ECIG is a perfect storm for an investor...toxic debt dragging the sp down to incomprehensible lows, all the while, rapidly increasing sales in a new industry with disruptive technology. With new financing on deck, and experienced management, I am not sure how it gets better than this.