hummm... odd AMD did not mention either frequency or cache size. Rumor is that these top out at 2.0Ghz and 512k cache. It would be interesting to know what the exact characteristics are, and of course to see some performance reviews comparing to Yonah. Here is the FAQ... still no mention from what I see. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_12651_14041,00.html Ahh... here is the right page: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_13909_13911,00.html 1.6/256K X 2 $184, 1.6/512k X2 $220, 1.8/512k X2 $263, 2.0/512k $354... Now what were all the bets and predictions about launch speed for a turion X2? I think the high enders were at 2.4Ghz, while the pessimists were down at 1.8Ghz... looks like about the middle in the end. These are also the first CPU's to feature the new AMD VT technology. --Alan