Well if they really are crooks like some think, then the smart thing would be to wait till Q-4 to do a R/S of COMMON shares. That would give them time to allow as much debt to be converted into the current SS with the A/S being raised as needed. Remember that their preffered shares from VGR don't become convertible until the end of Q-4. R/S of COMMON SHARES end of Q-4 get the PPS up and then convert the 350K preffered that they have between them into 630M common and go to dumping into the new SS for a very nice return. That would be the what I would do, if I were a shady CEO in pinksville. Good luck. I'm out.