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marketbear

05/09/06 7:18 PM

#252300 RE: skunksyard #252295

The courses you refer to were call "business ethics" when I was at Loyola.........they did NOT imply that anyone was obliged to support a BUSINESS, just because it was marketed to them. YOU seem to think that the GLBT community must support ANYTHING marketed to them. I feel obligated to support GLADD, who just called, I do NOT feel obliged to support BUSINESSES targeted to me............be they GLBT or straight........even auto companies.
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Drumchops

05/09/06 7:42 PM

#252319 RE: skunksyard #252295

There's that zany logic again! Whew something stinks in here!!


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XV19

05/09/06 8:49 PM

#252335 RE: skunksyard #252295

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GIVE IT A BREAK. Blame Mr. Brilliant to PISSING AWAY ALL OF Q's MONEY.
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IL Padrino

05/10/06 7:49 AM

#252365 RE: skunksyard #252295

Skunks,
I understand your point here. And you might be correct in saying that if Q had more support, it could have worked out eventually. But I really don't think gay people are to blame for Q's failure. You're looking at Q more personally than most gays probably do. You think this is a vehicle to overcome some kind of oppression or something. Like American workers overcoming the constant threat of foreign products or workers. Or like rallying behind a leader to defeat the oppression of a right to vote or something.
But is that what Q really is, or is it just entertainment? I think gay people are gradually getting the acceptance and tolerance that they're looking for, so Q wouldn't be necessary in their eyes for social awareness. I mean, practically every TV show (especially the prime time sitcoms) has a gay character these days.
Keep in mind, even if Q's goal was to create some kind of political move in society, it would fail because it would need straight people to watch it. I don't think 99% of the straight people would subscribe to Q.
Q is what it is...an entertainment channel and nothing more. If the shows are not entertaining to people, why would they buy into it?
The failure lies with Frank for bad marketing and bad business practices. Gays are not to blame for its failure.

Harley Davidson almost went out of business back in the 70's or 80's I believe. It was the only American motorcycle besides Indian. But people weren't buying them because their bikes were garbage. They had to put cardboard underneath the brand new bikes in the dealer floor because they leaked oil straight from the factory. Is that the fault of all American motorcyclists for not buying the crappy bikes?
Only when they started fixing the problems were Americans proud to own a Harley and then supported the company. Now they finally can trust the bike and be proud of what they own.

If Q does not give gays the same sense of "worth owning" they aren't going to support the product. Q needed to fix their problems and they didn't.

This is just IMO of course.