1 or more of them have 65,000 preferred shares, Aaron has made that 1 thing very clear in disclosures and those that deny that have an agenda.
Aaron has 3.5M of the 4M preferred plus the 200M common "restricted" he was given for BG Medical Technologies the same day it was created. By the end of 2012 Aaron states that he has only 3.5M preferred meaning he has sold the 200M restricted common and 500K preferred. Those are FACTS that are in the disclosures.