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Donotunderstand

01/25/15 7:16 PM

#281347 RE: Zargis #281325

AIG will lose

We will win

AIG occurred during the FIRE the HELL the near disaster - court unlikely to challenge GOV actions in an emergency

Third Amendment (not the early right or wrong infusion) was WAY after the fire or danger and right before Tax Assets and Bank Money and Writeups ---- it was stealing

I might suggest that SOME were working on that idea to stop the nonsense of GOV for a while lending money to F to be paid with it

BUT by the time the first day dawned on the Third Amendment it had no value and for sure was not putting out a fire and IMO clealry was not the action of a conservator

Again - be careful

One can IMO IMO consider lining up the first Action on F and F with the Action on AIG

But the real key - and focus of oh so many of the lawsuits is the insane dumb Third Amendment -- that is the ACE the Focus the Winner for us long equity

Donotunderstand

01/25/15 7:22 PM

#281348 RE: Zargis #281325

Zargis

one or the other

IMO the GOV can or will remove the sr notes

or

will return the over payments

but not both

reason

Assume the GOV was to help F and F capitalize by giving back say 80B of overpayment

What covers that budget hole ?

Seriously - how does GOV help with cash return without causing deficit

Easy
The easiest way is the GOV give back the overpayments - and its a large part of recapitalization

The GOV sells shares - via the rights of the warrants - to recover such dollars for the TREASURY

F and F are free and have capital
SR Pfd is gone
Serious dilution but a private company - (and I do not know that the GOV need use its 79.9% potential --- just enough to cover the amount of cash they "return" to F and F as capital for the newco