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12/22/14 2:07 AM

#19331 RE: scoop9 #19327

Sorry for my interference on this subject, themore as I am only in this stock since fall 2012.

It is very possible that he is ahead with his Investment or said the other way around, has a positive return on equity.

The stock Price we see today is split adjusted and you may recall that in 2009 the stock hit an absolut low and then again in 2012 but then a higher low. The traded volumes in the period pre 2010 were almost nothing and volume started to come in late 2009 and then around middle of 2012.

Let's assume he would have bought XXXXX Shares 10 years ago for amount x and would then have used the Price collaps in 2008 and 2009 to double up the amount by buying Shares and again in 2012 to invest more. From the XXXXXX Shares at start he could be sitting today on 2 Mio shs at a cost below 0.10. It always depends on the Money power one has available.

The average down during Price during collapses with the same amount or double amount, can of course then reduce your average Price up to 90%.

We can take a short example who it would work.

$ 10.000 $ 1.-- 10.000 shs.
$ 10.000 $ -.50 20.000 shs
$ 10.000 $ -.20 50.000 shs

Total 30.000 invested and 80.000 shs. = 0.375 or down 62 % from the first Price of $ 1.-- Now somebody with Money at Hand and convinced about the Company could have doubled or tripled his purchases and then the average Price of course would be much much lower as it already is with only the 1 to 1 Investment.

Read today that some hedge-funds used exactly this strategy with Brent so as to get down to a Level to be seen again, when Oil stabilises and recovers.

Mr Sensitivity

12/22/14 8:16 AM

#19333 RE: scoop9 #19327

"Will what's coming up make up for the past ten years?"

To be honest I almost never look at the value of my position. If the upcoming settlement puts money in the treasury, compensates the company for the harm J&J has done to the value of the shares held by all shareholders, and allows the company to finally implement their business plan, then I can wait further. If the company accepts a higher offer to settle the case but is not allowed to sell Genstrip, then I consider that a mistake because I invest to hold, because I invest in companies and products and almost ever in buying shares solely for appreciation. My brokerage agreements ask this specific question. If a company succeeds then IMO the value of the shares will take care of itself.

"I've been here 6 years....I am considerably down on my investment with that same strategy."

I have winners and losers too using my strategy. Some of my losers have been total losses and some of my winners have been explosive wins. As I wrote, the company is still in business after 10+ years, they have a wonderful market to market into, their business plan will be funded by J&J, and IMO the value of their stock in 12 months will be higher than if they continue their battle with J&J for the sole purpose of exacting more dollars, but in doing so lose the product to the settlement. What is not to like?