Replies to post #52252 on Vapor Group Inc (VPOR)

[Cheds]

Sooah Moon $VPOR DD


Whether we applied 1c for 89MM shares and 0,003 for 200MM shares, the math is close to reduction of $1.5 million in convertible debt since 8/19/2014. This is an enormous reduction, comparatively, and also points to the fact that the company is effecting debt to equity conversions at considerably above par which improves shareholder equity, long term. Had Magna's terms been the standard 60% discount 15 days look back, this thing would have hit sub par already. That is not the case.



2. Debt structure

The price of common stock took a beating due to two reasons. Increase in A/S to 2.5 billion and dilution that started between August 19th to date. The two are related to the amount of convertible debt $VPOR took in 2014 to fund growth.

Looking at the O/S increase from 8/19/2014 to 11/13/2014, we see an increase of 86,290,641 shares. I took a look at VPOR's chart and was able to get an average conversion price of 1.5c. What this means is that $VPOR was able to eliminate about $1,29 million in toxic debt with these issuance. Looking from 11/14 to date, we can project an addition of another 200 million shares to the O/S at an average conversion price of 0,005 which is elimination of another $1 million in debt.

What is exciting--not depressing--about conversion of debt since 8/19/2014 to date is this: $VPOR looks to have cleared at least half of its convertible debt if not more. I will remain on the conservative side and go with half for now but my quick review is giving me elimination of $2.2 million in debt.

Expect $VPOR to give an update and announce significant elimination of convertible debt!

3. Magna - VPOR's principle lender

Magna and VPOR revised the April convertible notes--conversion price is no longer fixed at 15c (makes no sense for Magna) but is 30% discount lowest market with a 5 day look back. Compare this to the typical 60% discount to market with a 15 day look back and you will see that Magna's notes are not as toxic as people think and this lender to $VPOR is more friendly than it usually is to other issuers.

Also on the date that the April notes were revised, $VPOR also prepaid a part of a note. I expect this pattern to continue and more lenders will give financing to $VPOR based on the revenue growth it will have and the fact that we're looking at sustainable growth.

With new loans that $VPOR obtains, cash from operations and controlled dilution, we can expect this issuer to become toxic debt free in no time and not too long into 2015, it should generate enough revenues to be self-funding, if not qualify for traditional financing should it opt to do so.

The A/S relative to the debt level is adequate to not worry about stock splits. O/S (estimated 650MM shares) is still small for what the company will be doing.

Plenty to be excited about here on $VPOR.


tough to argue with cold hard facts
BigCheds

[linkerboy]

Looks like it's a long ways to go.

[christjamin]

If Magna / Hanover is not included in your $4+ millions then I am afraid you are wrong.
It is stated clearly that Total debt/ liabilities is $4+ millions buddy. It did not say portion/partial, it stated total.

On April 29, 2014, the Company closed a private placement whereby it entered into a securities purchase agreement, dated April 29, 2014 (the “Purchase Agreement”), with Magna Equities II, LLC (formerly Hanover Holdings I, LLC) (“Magna”), an affiliate of Magna Group. Pursuant to the Purchase Agreement, the Company sold Magna four (4) 8% senior convertible promissory notes in aggregate principal amount of $1,342,391.17 million (collectively, the “Convertible Notes”, or individually, a “Convertible Note”) due twelve months from the date of the Convertible Notes’ issuance. The Convertible Notes were purchased by Magna for $1,235,000. A copy of the Purchase Agreement and the Convertible Notes are attached as Exhibits to the Current Report on Form 8-K, filed by the Company with the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission on May 6, 2014.

$1.342391.17 is part of the $4+ millions payables notes buddy.
THERE IS NO $6 + MILLIONS notes payables.

Long and strong VPOR

[HallaDurg]

Even if the debt gets paid, why should we believe there wont be additional debt issued? Sure we could pay off the current debt in 2015, but what happens when more piles up?