dd, I have been trading these ETF's for a while, watching these two for over a year. I trade mostly short term. Occasionally I'll go long (more than two weeks), but not in this sector, as you said, very manipulated. NG will retrace to the 3.94 area before its next leg up. FWIW, when I am talking about gaps being filled, it's in the indice, not the ETF. Charting the ETF is unreliable. Index gaps always get filled in the near term, within two weeks usually. Gltu.