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Rawnoc

11/05/14 9:21 PM

#103403 RE: rosie77 #103402

What post? I don't care about any post. What I'm addressing is this laughable bullshit:


The market sure seems to think one of them is bullshit when it comes to an ebola treatment. And as we all know "Mr. Market can tell quite well".



The market doesn't care about posts either. The market cares about an ebola treatment as you rightfully pointed out.

3 months and 1 day ago NNVC announced it was putting its hat in the ring and duking it out with Ebola again. Since that time, NNVC has been knocked on its ass while TKMR is still standing.

Using your theory that Mr. Market can tell quite well which company is bullshit then it's not looking too good for NNVC.
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another_voice_2

11/06/14 12:50 AM

#103404 RE: rosie77 #103402

speeded up testing.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/11/06/health-officials-unveil-plan-to-test-multiple-ebola-drugs-at-once/?intcmp=latestnews


November 5, 2014: This undated handout photo issued by Save the Children UK shows equipment still wrapped in plastic inside what will be the red zone of the Kerry Town Ebola Treatment Centre in Sierra Leone. (AP Photo, Louis Leeson/Save the Children UK)

NEW ORLEANS – The quest for an Ebola treatment is picking up speed. Federal officials have unveiled a plan to test multiple drugs at once, in an umbrella study with a single comparison group to give fast answers on what works.

"This is novel for us" and is an approach pioneered by cancer researchers, said Dr. Luciana Borio, head of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's Ebola response. "We need to learn what helps and what hurts" and speed treatments to patients, she said.










She outlined the plan Wednesday at an American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene conference in New Orleans. Thousands of scientists have crowded into day and late-night sessions on Ebola, which has killed 5,000 West Africans this year.

There is no treatment for Ebola, but several experimental ones such as ZMapp have been tried on a few patients, and scientists are eyeing some others that were developed for different conditions but may also fight Ebola.

"There's this tremendous urge to want to give people these experimental therapies" but it's crucial to make sure they don't do harm, said the FDA's Dr. Edward Cox.

Everyone in the umbrella study would get supportive care, such as intravenous fluids, then be assigned to receive one of several drugs or be in a comparison group. That's needed because without one, there's no way to know if any problems or deaths are from the drug or the disease, Cox said.

Instead of waiting until a certain number of patients are treated to look at results, as is usually done, researchers will monitor results as they come in, pairing each person on a drug with someone from the comparison group to see if a pattern can be detected.

The National Institutes of Health developed this "learn as you go" plan "to allow a winner to be declared very early," Cox said.

He said the FDA could not name the drugs being considered, but said a meeting next week with various companies should crystallize the plans.

Ten potential vaccines have been developed, and two should enter mid- to late-stage testing in December or January, Dr. Cathy Roth of the World Health Organization told the conference via Skype from Geneva. GlaxoSmithKline's is one of them, and it's too soon to say when it could be ready for wide use or what it would cost, said the company's Dr. W. Ripley Ballou.

Poor countries "can't be expected to pay for it," so groups that have given aid in the past likely will be asked to do that, he said.

At least 30 scientists were barred from the conference because Louisiana state officials told attendees to stay away if they had traveled to certain West African countries or had contact with an Ebola patient in the last 21 days, Ebola's maximum incubation period. One was Dr. Amanda Tiffany of Doctors Without Borders, who was to have given a talk on how to limit the spread of Ebola, based on her work on some of the very first cases in Guinea.

"The stigma American and other colleagues are now facing is great," she said in a statement read by a colleague. "We need information disseminated through the media based on science and medicine and not on fear."

Dr. Daniel Bausch, a Tulane University doctor who has worked on the outbreak and advised the government on policy, said travel bans and quarantines were hurting the Ebola response.

The phrase "abundance of caution" is code for doing something based on fear rather than science, he said. "I don't think it calms people's fears, I think it enhances people's fears."

Ebola is setting back even the crude health care available in West Africa. In Sierra Leone, there now are no doctors willing to do Caesarean sections on pregnant women — whether they are known to have Ebola or not — because of the fear of exposure to so much blood, said Dr. Lina Moses, another Tulane researcher who works in that country.

"Maternal health is a serious issue right now," she said. "We're expecting maternal mortality to skyrocket."