2da's posts are informative and realistic in terms of investing decisions and the company's future. stubborn as he may well be, there is no way the harv, or any of his cronies, or denner, doesn't see the situation of the company as 2da does. would hate to think the harv has lost his sense of reality with the situation (aka. one flew over the cuckoos nest). there have been some minor positive news about ariads progress that have come out these past few months, that can also help benefit a large bios portfolio if successful. those positives plus Mn can also lead to a more decent bid for a BO within the next year. with that in mind (and hoping the harv does have some sense of reality left), i continue to hold for the greater good that these drugs get the ability to mature through a well financed pharmaceutical company, which in turn will benefit the longs who have endured.