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Andy Grave

10/23/14 11:00 PM

#137585 RE: Dmcq #137557

There is some chance that they will miss that and have to use 20nm again if they want to target a release in September


.....so you ignore all my questions and concerns (which I consider legitimate) and seize on the possibility that Apple will have to use 20nm next year. Why am I not surprised???..........oh....by the way, my Apple iPhone 6+ arrived today with that 20nm TSMC fabbed A8 processor.....you know...the one some Intel zealots here are dropping turds over.......right on schedule......as promised...........now remind me where you stood on this 20nm A8 delivery schedule......I just can't keep track among all the Intel naysayers.

wbmw

10/23/14 11:28 PM

#137586 RE: Dmcq #137557

There is some chance that they will miss that and have to use 20nm again if they want to target a release in September next year. 14/16 nm finFET is where the foundries want to be and 20nm is seen as a stopgap from 28nm - but it isn't an easy journey.


Maybe not, but I think helping Apple to hit record iPhone 6/6+ sales with the A8, and launching A8X on time certainly adds credibility to TSMC's process schedule. If they don't hit their June goal next year for the 16FF ramp, it won't be more than a few months later. I'm expecting to see products based on 16FF hit the shelf by holiday season next year. Apple, Qualcomm, nVidia, and Samsung will all be racing to FinFET based SOC's, and they all seem pretty damned good at exceeding expectations on product execution.