Thanks Maverick I think you are spot on I have been and continue to add at the .08 range and I think with anything positive a return to the .40ies is possible it hit 3.80 in 2012 that is a serious drop to 7-8 cents! management did not handle the capital well They raised 63 million at 3.00 per share and presto it is gone I think you are right they will be very careful going forward glty