Hey Dino.. I certainly get the frustration but I think Beach is right..Something has to give...escalation in fuel prices..Industry starting to publically acknowledge the advantages of diesel, China's determination to be a manufacturing player, Detroit's Malaise ( And IMO inevitable decline due to cost pressures)..All these factors play into Torvec's ultimate value ..I would love to hear/read Elizabeth Harrington's assessment about TOVC's likely success..Having been high up @ PW in China for 20+ years she probably has an interesting perspective on their business methodology ( s).. Good Luck..Leitrim