I think you're right. Carl is quite young at 38 but Niclas is almost 50 and I do not think he wants to start something else from scratch. He will drive this up as high as he can and then cash in and retire. Our problem is that I don't think he's in much of a hurry either. After all, I'm sure he draws in a good salary and he's enjoying the ride up. We may have to wait until he's ready so that we can cash in too and it may be a few years.