Hey Nitwit means no harm and most of the time he is pretty funny. But since several of us on this board got burned by VRNG that is not funny until we recover. I am still in shock that the verdict was overturned but that is part of the reason market investing can gives us such a rush. I lost a bunch in that trade to but in real life I have not lost a penny because I have not closed out the trade. Just going to see what happens in the next few months and put it in the back account for now. I still have many other plays going on and it only takes one to make a recovery.