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56Chevy

07/08/14 11:08 PM

#187 RE: Enterprising Investor #186

Absolutely possible...makes perfect sense.

What did you pay when you got in this?



h_man_investor

07/09/14 10:57 AM

#189 RE: Enterprising Investor #186

Whitehall is not concerned at deferring long term capital gains taxes and more interested in maximizing the IRR and getting paid which they only do when a transaction is realized. Clipping an 8% coupon on a going forward basis will certainly lower the +100% IRR PFD Holdings has realized.

It's simple math that there is not enough cash left over to pay all the accrued interest let alone the par value. I urge anyone to demonstrate otherwise.

But you bring up an interesting thought and an assumption that I made was that the ARC preferreds would be a listed security. It may not be which means that Grace may hold onto the security, payout the dividend as a dividend on the Grace preferreds. However the payments won't cover the preferred divs.