56Chevy, Thank you for the reply. I am no longer a premium subscriber so I am unable to respond through private message. I like both TRN and GBX and think both have very good futures. I know this is a cyclical business but I believe it has at least another 1-3 years to go and yes, i love the backlogs of both companies. Admittedly, i am somewhat late to the game. I will probably end of buying shares in both companies over the next few trading days. I do like TRN's diversification but GBX is growing like gangbusters. I will look at BDCO. Any others? Tia