ETRM : I gave up as many positive spins on what I assume a lost cause, as must be 20% more effective than placebo ( not under 10%, unless extraordinary exception)) and in this case they plant and shock so the ones who enter the "blind" study who do not feel they get the shock, may be less faithful to dieting and thus manufacture an edge to those in the study who feel the pulses and want to work with this material?