Well, I am an optimist. In pennie$, management do very strange things at times. Would a buy back be out of the question? No...and this sector is just beginning to heat up again. As I said before in a previous post, I am keying on GWP*, up $7.00+ now to $103 area. Yes is apples to oranges, but I see the potential of this sector. I am long, locked and loaded...........Go PMCM....glta