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Speedy4224

06/17/14 3:17 PM

#8833 RE: longtermgems #8829

Hahaha, good one LTG, I thoroughly enjoyed that one.

Good luck getting an unbiased view on the message boards Lurker.

Best advice is do your own due diligence!

Geo2014

06/17/14 3:28 PM

#8836 RE: longtermgems #8829

...and the Surgibot platform offers zero potential for future remote applications!

was CUIN2

06/17/14 3:29 PM

#8838 RE: longtermgems #8829

Your analysis needs a lot of work to be truly unbiased.

Folks need to do there own DD to get the full picture and make the right decision.

VeNoM12

06/17/14 4:17 PM

#8848 RE: longtermgems #8829

This analysis definitely needs some work... but speaking to what I know from my own job...

I am a Covidien rep, covering advanced energy (Ligasure vessel sealers and Sonicision ultrasonic dissection)...

Your claims of the FIRST EVER "smokeless" advanced energy system could not be more wrong. There have been multiple systems that have been marketed as smokeless over the years, but what anyone that has sold these products will tell you is that all of them produce some sort of vapor plume. In the case of the current lines of advanced bipolar systems (ie. Ligasure and Enseal)plume is created in the form of water vapor, not actual smoke, but is still visible. Ultrasonic devices (ie. Sonicsion and Harmonic) also create vapor plume and some smoke because they dissect by super heating and vaporizing tissue. And considering all forms of advanced surgical energy operate based on one of those forms of technology. I sincerely doubt that TRXC have developed an entirely new technology under the noses of Covidien or Ethicon without them knowing or being acquired. Those two giants of that $2 billion dollar industry, as you put it, have a reputation for gobbling up start-ups that pose any threat to their AST business, whether it be energy or endomechanical.

Stick to the TRXC board.


Titan Long and Strong

Robs911

06/17/14 4:39 PM

#8853 RE: longtermgems #8829

Not to offend any readers but, I have to laugh when I hear people flapping their gums about the merits of surgibot vs titan or intuitive, and yet they have never held a scalpel in hand or placed a trocar in a patient or for that matter actually performed laparoscopy- straight stick or robotic.
After 20 years of performing straight stick laparoscopy, the natural progression and advantages inherent in a robotic platform are very apparent -
outstanding visualization/magnification, 7 degrees of freedom, the ability to work on both "sides" of or table simultaneously, tremendous dexterity, the ability to be seated for long cases not to even mention the patient benefits from MIS. I can push the envelope so much further than with straight stick because of the ------TECHNOLOGY.
Would you not agree the natural progression is to improve on the current technology, to advance it in a cost conscious way and make it more appealing to hospitals and patients ( see cell/smart phones/tablets/4k tv/etc).
I can't see this progression filled by a hand held pseudo-robotic platform that personally looks no different than straight stick set-up and requires the surgeon to only work on one side of OR table with assist on other- no different than straight stick cases; I don't see any evidence of 7 degrees of freedom as with endo-wrist technology of intuitive or "snake" arms of titan. I see titan pushing the technology forward with a less expensive platform that maintains mobility. I just don't see that in the surgibot system and I'm the end user-