Replies to post #269643 on Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

[glnetadm]

MM could betray shorts at the end!
4kids, I like your research for "is when threshold is either triggered (2 x currently in 2011 and 2012) or when threshold blows up and out".
MM only for profit,if they cannot short JBI more, they will start to pump it. I think MM who can easy management to kick retail shorts out again, like him kick retail small longs this time. So in current market, all retail invest(trade) should team up. otherwise, we are victim!

[fourkids_9pets]

what is the *value* of 37M to 62M JBII shares?

few realize that one of the largest assets a legit OTC company has that can uplist from the cesspool
are those abusively shorted shares (JBII >> 5 years and counting)

so ask yourself >> what is the value of $those shares in an abusively shorted *legit* company like P2O?

an exercise i undertook on Friday when another piece of the puzzle filled in ..

Volume (approx) Totals since first publicly traded .. (rounded up/down)

2009 = 7M
2010 = 20M
2011 = 37M
2012 = 31M
2013 = 37M
2014 = 17M (thru eo May)


Total Shares (approx) = 149M

i started documenting JBII *trades* back in early spring 2010

i noted publicly at various times via this very venue ..
that on avg i could see 3 to 5 fake *trades* done ..
for example >> in Dec 2010 (pps round trip) it was 5 fake
i was seeing for every 1 legit .. on avg imo 3 fake were done CONsistently

so let's do some extrapolations of what that means

if one wants to do some figuring
one can take >> 149M total volume and figure out roughly a *daily*
combo of PROs >> 5+ years' efforts .. re: wash trading and abusive shorts

and realize as well >> *imo* there are multiple players in play re: stock manipulation and JBII ..

but simply put >> they have major PROBs with P2O's first sale

if 1 legit trade begets 1 fake trade = 74.5M >> combo
if 1 legit trade begets 2 fake trades = 99.3M >> combo
if 1 legit trade begets 3 fake trades = 111M >> combo
if 1 legit trade begets 4 fake trades = 119M >> combo
if 1 legit trade begets 5 fake trades = 124M >> combo



one can then cut that in half (conservative re: *resets/wash*)

74.5M = 37.25M
99.3M = 49.65M
111M = 55.5M
119M = 59.5M
124M = 62M



what is the *value* of 37M to 62M JBII shares?

that is the dilemma currently facing >> PROs for 4+ years *efforts*

that is why i call for a *partial* cover with first asset sale
(tho' imo BoD is the signal that will trigger said partial cover)

equally worth digesting ..
is when threshold is either triggered (2 x currently in 2011 and 2012)
or when threshold blows up and out

mind you .. this is what is actually *reported* vs disguised via colluding entities

most recent *blow outs*

Jan 31, 2014 26,647
Jan 15, 2014 341,500
Dec 31, 2013 69,375
Dec 13, 2013 331,245
Nov 29, 2013 23,419



http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/JBII/short-sales

for those who have an interest

do the DD on what *size* was showing when threshold
was triggered on JBII for the first time and then the second
in relation to known share structure info

it's remarkable what is *shown* vs what isn't and vice versa

and besides a
dirty whale re: 2nd round .. evidence (albeit currently circumstantial)
would be known via *discovery* based on documentation

$zero doubts

the only ones who believe the *legal* short data >> reported

.. so dutifully trotted out to CONdition by rote

besides getting interesting again

the clock is finally working in investors' favor

it's been a long time coming

here's to the stars aligning for P2O and her investors

4kids
all jmo