Replies to post #26324 on Intel Corp (INTC)

[chipguy]

Somehow, it seems impossible that Turion can be gauged by the same standards as AMD's desktop parts.

You haven't seen the box in the leaked dual Turion development
project management chart that says "something magic happens
here"?

[Wouter Tinus]

Somehow, it seems impossible that Turion can be gauged by the same standards as AMD's desktop parts. My thought is that Turion is using more of an application specific TDP

Turion 64 X2 and the top bin Athlon 64 X2 are on opposite ends of AMDs process tuning capability (for example they can vary gate lenght with 1nm accuracy). So the mobile chips have lower leakage, slower transistors than the high-end desktop parts.

[mas]

but mounting evidence seems to suggest that, at less than 1/2 the previous AMD thermal standard, Turion had to have the numbers twisted to appear competitive on the mobile front.

Yeah sure, mounting evidence lol, why are you not looking at the current mobile turion numbers in comparison to give you a better idea than desktop parts. You crack me up, on the one hand when it suits you you say you can't use Turion mobile numbers to work out a quad-core's TDP becuase they are different transistor designs and then when it suits you to start some early fudding on Turion X2 you do exactly that, compare desktop and mobile parts ! Sheesh what an illogical inconsistent poster you are and it sure shows that there's no technical base to your opinions. Twisted the numbers lol, next you will be saying it's voodoo ! Here's a big frigging clue for you, the ex-Sparc USV team was hired by AMD to work specifically on low-power mobile designs.

[P2O I'm from MO]

wmbw,

Of course you do realize that it has been reported that the
Turion is made with more of the lower power transisters, eh,
right? How many and in what specific area would more than
likely alter those thermals.

Regards,
Mike.