Nef, have you listened to Joe on the calls, can you really take this man seriously. You might be right about the NAZ and if so that might be a deal breaker for me but for now as I said I am willing to hear them out in a few days and now with the S1 gone the curtain is pulled back and I expect clear and honest answers, if I like what I hear, I'll be around. If they are evasive or if I view it as BS well ...