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excel

03/14/06 5:46 PM

#44141 RE: Hound #44136

Cobra. It doesn't matter to anyone much in the big picture if they are floorless or not.

Just another huge red flag they have ZIP for a technology!

jarsch501

03/14/06 7:45 PM

#44148 RE: Hound #44136

If I am correct about this, it is not actually floorless as you were saying because the agreement does not state that they have a duty to increase authorized shares beyond 900MM.

And again, I could be wrong with this interpretation.


Hound, you're correct that RIM can not issue more shares than they're authorized to. However, 900MM shares is 3x the current number of outstanding shares.

Did you realize what happened with the last financing agreement for $3.5 million?

On July 5th, the outstanding share count was over 110 million and is currently nearing 300 million. All you have to do is look at the corresponding chart for the number of outstanding shares in relation to the price and volume with the charts provided below.

Monthly Prices
Date 	Open 	High 	Low 	Close 	Volume 
05/31/05 0.170 0.180 0.150 0.155 5,845,300
06/30/05 0.153 0.160 0.085 0.105 4,396,400
07/31/05 0.110 0.110 0.051 0.066 10,328,300
08/31/05 0.066 0.072 0.032 0.037 66,466,500
09/30/05 0.037 0.039 0.025 0.029 32,869,100
10/31/05 0.030 0.036 0.026 0.027 19,248,200
11/30/05 0.027 0.029 0.020 0.024 59,475,400
12/31/05 0.025 0.027 0.022 0.026 73,904,500
01/31/06 0.026 0.029 0.025 0.028 71,078,700
02/28/06 0.027 0.275 0.007 0.138 274,041,700
03/13/06 0.138 0.190 0.121 0.154 35,983,900


Outstanding Shares:
111,292,781 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Jul 5, 2005*
112,770,974 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Aug 3, 2005*
154,258,600 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Sept 1, 2005*
182,274,324 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Oct 10, 2005*
185,111,641 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Nov 2, 2005*
216,598,180 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Dec 1, 2005*
247,292,560 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Jan 3, 2006*
265,347,249 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Feb 2, 2006*
293,314,722 *note: data was provided by transfer agent on Mar 2, 2006*

Today the price is lower and the financing amount has doubled. It will obviously take more than 200 million shares to convert but probably less than the 900 million authorized. We could go further and extrapolate those numbers to what may happen with this financing agreement. All things currently being equal(the same), .02 is being really, way too generous and <.01 is probably more realistic.

A few vaguely mentioned the increase in authorized shares was due to the possibility of a forward split too! lol

spokeshave

03/14/06 8:07 PM

#44154 RE: Hound #44136

If I am correct about this, it is not actually floorless as you were saying because the agreement does not state that they have a duty to increase authorized shares beyond 900MM.

~~~~*sigh*~~~~~

If it makes you feel better to believe that reaching the limit for authorized shares makes the debentures not "death spiral" instruments, then have at it.

Consider this - if the remaining 600,000,000 were all used to convert the debentures, they would convert at an average share price of one tenth of a penny. That would mean that the share price would lose 99.3% of its current value. If that is not a death spiral in your eyes, then I can't help you.

I honestly don't know why you keep asking me questions if you refuse to believe the answer.