I think you're missing my point, far off actually. I never said APT was debt free, no businesses are debt free. I only claim that APT had to take on debt to suffice its growth, likely due to the terms they have to extend to their customers. The recent PR and 8K that explained about this Ironridge transaction clearly states that it was necessary for them to do away with Ironridge so that APT can take back their receivables control. It's in their filings and PR, not a guess. That being said it is absolutely in our shareholders interest that they take back control of their own receivables. Every business will have debt, but the fact is as much as we might not want to realize, them curing these debts is only going to be positive moving forward for APT. This is certain because it will only make their financials look better and not worst. What I was saying about their needs for funding due to the floating of their terms to their big box stores and etc is only an assumption of why they ever would have needed the first loan to being with. Whichever loan took presence first or it's sequence isn't relevant but more of what did they originally needed the money for. And on that I am saying that it was needed to float the cash flow and ability to order parts and etc. which is normal in my book because the last 3 years of their growth was also the last few years of most difficulties for any business or anyone to try to obtain a traditional bank loan. Again I never said they were debt free I only like the fact that this transaction does away a liability in their financials, which is undoubtly a good thing!