Good point. I have been in subbies that have sold "services", "ideas", and exploration "prospects". Seen them all. We can actually put our hands on this product. And Krony made a good point as well. Berge's financials are carefully articulated to account for unforeseen circumstances, which I see as extraordinarily cautious, not careless and in disregard for shareholders. The anxiousnous is well justified, but does not warrant the constant complaining and repetitive bashing. Personally, if I was deep in the red in a stock, I would pump the pee out of it and hopes someone else bought my lot. Why chase misfortune with stupid?