with that point I agree with you Arnold, but, besides the negatives, there are many positives about the business too....as indicated by the strengthening of their collaborations, Aldevoron, GE, and their SAB and BOD.....they are no longer dealing with sheisters such as the Lane group...and yes, I affiliate everyone with them as sheisters...cheap, dirty, sheisters...but then again, I don't know them...maybe they are upright people...LOL