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the_8th, Obama has been/is falsely portrayed as 'radically socialist' NOT by main-stream media, but by radically conservative, hysterically 'Obama is Socialist!!!' conservatives .. by blaming the media you absolve the radical TeaBagger conservatives .. you also, STILL continue to promote the false equivalence meme conservatives use .. the article below is rather outdated, but relevant .. also, re your ..

"Look at how the media has polarized most people. Right and wrong no longer matters. Most of us take our orders either from the liberal media or conservative media. We are robots that support "The cause" no matter what. Right or wtong no longer come into play. The media just told you to go after Christy and like a good soldier you did. How did you post about>>>

1. Benghazi ?
2. IRS abuse of power ?
3. Domestic spying ?
4. Fast and furious ?"

.. with varying degree all conservative beat-ups .. a couple links in support (and others around) of that ..

1. NYTimes Investigation Brings Bad News For Benghazi Hoaxers .. 5th down here ..
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2. Christie had no idea what his top aides were doing, but Obama was all up IN the IRS Cinicinnati office.
— @AdamSerwer
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House Democrats condense Issa's 'investigation' of IRS 'scandal' into its essence: A pile of manure
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3. The Secret War .. just a little more insight into
.. Cyberwarfare .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwarfare
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4. The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77034430

Insurance and Freedom By PAUL KRUGMAN April 7, 2013

President Obama will soon release a new budget, and the commentary is already flowing fast and furious.
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ok .. to the article ..

32 Republicans Who Caused the Government Shutdown

Meet the House conservative hardliners.

Svati Kirsten Narula, Ryan Jacobs, and Judith Ohikuare Oct 4 2013, 4:46 PM ET


Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

Friday was the fourth day of the government shutdown, and there’s still no sign of an exit .. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/why-a-grand-bargain-or-anything-else-wont-end-the-shutdown-soon/280219/ . What’s surprising about the ongoing fight is how a small group of members of Congress have managed to bring Washington to a halt. Just months ago, Speaker John Boehner was warning that forcing the government to shut down over Obamacare or anything else was politically hazardous. Yet Boehner remains stuck, his strategy dictated by a small rump of members in the Republican caucus who refuse to budge. On Monday night, as government funding ran out, a group of around 40 hardline conservatives .. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-third-basic-fact-that-every-government-shutdown-story-should-include/280189/ .. refused to support any resolution to fund the government that didn't defund Obamacare. Since Monday night, their goals may have become less clear .. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/here-is-the-short-gop-quote-that-perfectly-defines-the-shutdown/280220/ , but their resolve has not weakened. While it’s widely believed that a “clean” resolution would pass the House handily .. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-two-basic-facts-that-should-be-in-every-shutdown-story/280179/ , it would also likely lead to a right-wing rebellion in the caucus that would spell the end of Boehner’s speakership.

So who are those hardliners? To compile this list, we started with a roster that the Senate Conservatives Fund .. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-night-the-gop-cracked-up/280163/ , a group aligned with Ted Cruz, created of representatives who were allied with them .. http://www.senateconservatives.com/site/post/2297/the-next-two-obamacare-lies . We cross-checked it with the list of members who signed an August letter .. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/09/meadows-boehner-defund-obamacare-suicide-caucus-geography.html .. by Rep. Mark Meadows demanding that Boehner use a shutdown as a threat .. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/09/meadows-boehner-defund-obamacare-suicide-caucus-geography.html .. to defund Obamacare, and against other public statements this week. It's not a comprehensive roll — there’s no official “wacko bird” .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24272317...

[ INSERT: even in Australia it's clearer than you, the_8th, either seem to see with your continued subservience to the 'false equivalence' mode ..

Australian Finance Minister warns of Republican ‘crazies’
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caucus that keeps a register — but it's a window into the small but powerful group of men and women in the House of Representatives who brought the federal government to a standstill.



Representative: Justin Amash

Home District: Grand Rapids, Michigan

Quoted: “President Obama and Senator Reid refuse to negotiate .. http://twitter.com/repjustinamash/status/385817201628176384 .. over giving regular Americans the same breaks they give themselves, government workers, and big business.”



Representative: Michele Bachmann

Home District: Stillwater, Minnesota

Quoted: “This is about the happiest I’ve seen members in a long time .. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bachmann-to-hannity-this-is-about-the-happiest-gop-has-been-in-a-while/ .. because we’ve seen we’re starting to win this dialogue on a national level.”



Representative: Marsha Blackburn

Home District: Brentwood, Tennessee

Quoted: “There is some good news out of the shutdown .. http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/325817-house-republican-cheers-epa-shutdown , the EPA can't issue new regulations.”



Representative: Mo Brooks

Home District: Huntsville, Alabama

Quoted: “America survived the last 17 .. http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/27/country-moves-closer-to-government-shutdown-with-senate-vote/#ixzz2gg9iJmJ2 .. government shutdowns.”



Representative: Paul Broun

Home District: Athens, Georgia

Quoted: “[The Democrats] need to look in the mirror, because they're the ones to blame .. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Obama-healthcare-Republicans-shutdown/2013/10/01/id/528722 . They're the ones that shut the government down."



Representative: John Carter

Home District: Round Rock, Texas

Quoted: “We must postpone this overreaching and damaging law that I believe will bankrupt .. http://carter.house.gov/press-releases/where-do-we-go-from-here1/ .. the hard-working every day American.”

[ LMAO! .. John, methinks you are captured by the past ..

the_8th - Below are Real ObamaCare Stories from our readers. We asked you to share your ObamaCare stories and asked how Obama's health care reform or the current healthcare system is affecting your life.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=95379298 .. see correction in reply. ]



Representative: John Culberson

Home District: Houston, Texas

Quoted: “The whole room [said]: 'Let's vote!' I said, like 9/11, 'Let's roll! .. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114924/meet-john-culberson-house-republican-who-said-lets-roll ”

[ lol, excuse, but on that one i have to repeat ..

Australian Finance Minister warns of Republican ‘crazies’
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=79789976 .. can't see, the_8th, why you can't understand .. ]



Representative: Ron DeSantis

Home District: Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida

Quoted: “It is a simple issue of fairness .. http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013/10/01/fl-rep-desantis-house-bill-preventing-obamacare-congressional-exemptions-passes/ : Members of Congress, their staff, and the political elite should not be given special relief from the harmful effects of Obamacare while the rest of America is left holding the bag.”



Representative: Scott DesJarlais

Home District: Jasper, Tennessee

Quoted: “I remain committed in refusing to vote for any proposal that funds the president’s health-care law .. http://desjarlais.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-desjarlais-statement-on-senate-passage-of-continuing-resolution , and I call upon my colleagues to join me. A temporary government shutdown pales in comparison to the long-term negative consequences that Obamacare will impose on our economy and our healthcare system.”

[ THINK CAUCUS ROOM RESTAURANT .. haha, the search insertion in play already! .. LOLOL ..

Economically, Could Obama Be America's Best President?
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YET, you, the_8th, YOU and your ilk continue to pick .. pick .. pick .. with Obama's achievements you should not be so ]



Representative: Jeff Duncan

Home District: Laurens, South Carolina

Quoted: “I believe Obamacare has shut down America, so I’d rather shut down the government .. http://www.jeffduncan.com/snews.php?n=91 .. than continue doing what we’re doing, which is penalizing businesses and families in this country.”



Representative: John Fleming

Home District: Minden, Louisiana

Quoted: “This is what my constituents send me here for .. http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2013/10/01/tea-party-lawmakers-seek-deflect-blame-for-shutdown/ROPs3uI3ApfeEE2Oq3M0EK/story.html . This does underscore just how serious we are and how serious our constituents are about putting an end to Obamacare.”



Representative: Scott Garrett

Home District: Wantange Township, New Jersey

Quoted: “I am deeply disappointed .. http://ridgewood.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/garretts-glen-rock-office-closed-for-shutdown .. that President Obama and the Senate refused to come to the negotiation table and failed to fund the federal government.”

[ Garrett, many of Obama's supporters are angry at his penchant for negotiation .. he is known by all to practice it! ]



Representative: Phil Gingrey

Home District: Marietta, Georgia

Quoted: “A majority of Americans think Obamacare will make health care in our country worse, and they’re right. House Republicans are listening to the American people, and I urge .. http://gingrey.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=351688 .. Harry Reid and Senate Democrats to do the same."



Representative: Louie Gohmert

Home District: Tyler, Texas

Quoted: "There are just so many broken promises that we need to slow this train wreck .. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gohmert-obamacare-delay-vote/2013/09/29/id/528210 , this nightmare. It's time to put the skids on this thing and slow it down before more people get hurt."

[ Gohmert, whacko! extraordinaire ..


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Makes you cry! .. oomph added ..
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Representative: Tom Graves

Home District: Ranger, Georgia

Quoted: "House GOP is united .. http://twitter.com/RepTomGraves/status/384304272432586753 .. around a very reasonable policy: POTUS should give families the same Obamacare delay he gave to businesses."



Representative: Vicky Hartzler

Home District: Harrisonville, Missouri

Quoted: "The American people .. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/stalemate-city-three-conservative-republicans-case-against-obamacare-112612865.html .. have spoken already on this: They do not want Obamacare .... It is hurting people."

[ CRAP! ]



Representative: Tim Huelskamp

Home District: Fowler, Kansas

Quoted: "Most Americans realize .. http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/01/20778171-five-scenarios-for-ending-the-shutdown-impasse?lite .. the government shutdown has no impact on their daily life. They got their mail today; they're going to get their Social Security check."

[ ABSOLUTE CRAP! ]

the_8th, in case you missed this one

[ repeat, you might consider and address content this time .. it would be a healthy thing to do, for YOU ]
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Representative: Jim Jordan

Home District: Urbana, Ohio

Quoted: "We have to get something on Obamacare .. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-04/jordan-says-health-law-must-be-part-of-any-budget-deal.html , because that — if you want to get this country on a fiscal path to balance, you cannot let an entitlement of this size that will truly bankrupt the country and, more importantly, one that's not going to help Americans with their health care, you can't let this happen."

[ the_8th .. you see the bullshit, yet? .. repeat another ..

Economically, Could Obama Be America's Best President?
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Representative: Steve King

Home District: Kiron, Iowa

Quoted: "The American people have rejected Obamacare. The president is willing to put all of that on the line to save his namesake legislation, which I think would go down in history .. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/03/steve-king-accuses-obama-of-largest-political-tantrum-ever-during-shutdown/ .. as the largest political tantrum ever."

[ yep, it is enough to make any rational person cry ]



Representative: Raul Labrador

Home District: Eagle, Idaho

Quoted: To Chris Matthews of MSNBC .. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/09/29/rep_raul_labrador_vs_chris_matthews_your_boss_tip_oneill_shut_down_the_government.html : "You know, your boss, Tip O'Neill, shut down the government 12 different times. And you didn't call him a terrorist."



Representative: Tom Massie

Home District: Garrison, Kentucky

Quoted: "It’s just not that big of .. http://wfpl.org/post/acknowledging-gop-will-be-blamed-congressman-thomas-massie-describes-shutdown-not-big-deal .. a deal."

[ ROTFLMAO! .. not as big a deal as your top, eh Tom .. guessing that's one guy who doesn't feel
the need to get a hair job because he's a salesman and so image is important to his income ..
betcha, Massie won't go bald as gracefully .. chuckle as Gohmert has .. just a thought .. lol ]



Representative: Tom McClintock

Home District: Elk Grove, California

Quoted: In response to Harry Reid calling Tea Partiers "anarchists": "When the other guy starts calling you names, you know that you're winning the debate .. http://news.yahoo.com/video/rep-tom-mcclintock-shutdown-senate-161406540.html , and you know that he knows you're winning the debate."

[ yeah, Tom, you're right, Hil Mary!!! 'Social Hitler' Obama IS winning the debate ]



Representative: Mark Meadows

Home District: Cashier, North Carolina

Quoted: “James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 58 that ‘the power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon . . . for obtaining redress of every grievance .. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/meadows-put-government-road-shutdown-article-1.1472233 .’"



Representative: Randy Neugebauer

Home District: Lubbock, Texas

Quoted: "We get tons of mail and E-mails and phone calls. And overwhelmingly, those phone calls say, 'Congressman, do everything you can to get rid of this very onerous piece of legislation. We don’t want the government running our health care.' And so, from my perspective, we’re doing the people’s work here .. http://kfyo.com/congressman-randy-neugebauer-says-he-is-refusing-to-budge-on-defunding-obamacare-audio/ .”

[ Translation: 'we're shoveling our TeaParty shit here' ]



Representative: Matt Salmon

Home District: Mesa, Arizona

Quoted: “I was here during the government shutdown in 1995. It was a divided government. we had a Democrat president of the United States. We had a Republican Congress. And I believe .. http://www.policymic.com/articles/66021/government-shutdown-8-people-who-are-actually-happy-about-it .. that that government shutdown actually gave us the impetus, as we went forward, to push toward some real serious compromise.”

[ Dem Terry McAuliffe won the Gov election in VA yesterday, albeit by less of a margin than polls predicted,
but a win is a win - 1/3 of VA voters yesterday blamed Repubs for the October gov't shutdown - WAY TO GO TEABAGGERS!!!
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Representative: Mark Sanford

Home District: Charleston, South Carolina

Quoted: "Our society has been held together for over 200 years in no small part due to the belief that our system was fair or equitable, yet the implementation of the Affordable Care Act has been anything but that .. http://www.fitsnews.com/2013/10/01/mark-sanford-issues-statement-on-shutdown/ ."



Representative: Steve Scalise

Home District: Jefferson, Louisiana

Quoted: “Either Obamacare is good enough that it should apply to all or it is so bad that it should apply to none. It is time for the sweetheart deals and backroom exemptions to end .. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/live-updates-the-shutdown-showdown/?id=9da6d13e-bbcb-4acb-9448-a1fbac66ff99 .”



Representative: Dave Schweikert

Home District: Fountain Hills, Arizona

Quoted: "I know it's not comfortable for a lot of people here, but this is how it's supposed to work .. http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/what-are-conservatives-thinking-20131001 . It's supposed to be cantankerous. It's supposed to be this constant grinding." *

* A previous version of this story quoted Schweikert saying that the shutdown "is my kind of fun." That statement was taken out of context. The congressman was referring to an interview with NPR .. http://www.npr.org/2013/10/01/228074814/house-gop-didnt-blink-focused-on-defunding-obamacare , not with the government shutdown. We regret the error.



Representative: Steve Stockman

Home District: Clear Lake, Texas

Quoted: “Americans want Congress to do two things, work together on our national fiscal crisis and stop Obamacare. It’s time Congress started listening to them .. http://petitions.conservativeactionalerts.com/bill/defund-obamacare-via-continuing-resolution/ .”



Representative: Marlin Stutzman

Home District: Howe, Indiana

Quoted: “We aren't going to be disrespected .. http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/10/02/whats-the-fight-about-republicans-struggle-to-explain/ . We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”



Representative: Randy Weber

Home District: Pearland, Texas

Quoted: “When the Democrats passed [Obamacare] over 60 percent of America’s wishes three years ago .. http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/tag/rep-randy-weber/ , they began this government shutdown.”



Representative: Ted Yoho

Home District: Gainesville, Florida

Quoted: “It only takes one with passion .. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/us/politics/conservatives-take-turns-standing-up-to-boehner.html?pagewanted=all — look at Rosa Parks, Lech Walesa, Martin Luther King.”

This post has been amended to clarify the context of a comment by Rep. Dave Schweikert.

All photos: Wikimedia Commons

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/