Tinroad....what ever the transformation for PP for chip design it all leads to....a "new class of PC peripheral and <b>"PC-Free" systems."</b> Reading the specs on the new iPod....it sounds like it's happening. Edig still sits on the front cover <A HREF="http://www.portalplayer.com/" target="_new">http://www.portalplayer.com/</A> doni