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Re: mr_sano post# 4847

Thursday, 09/26/2013 12:23:40 PM

Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:23:40 PM

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If you can't find any peer review of the methods employed, you're either not looking or really bad at research. Included are some of the touchstone articles about how one would be able to treat crude oil with EM fields, and it's worth noting that none of the authors in any of these articles is named "Rongjia Tao". I posted these links for you over the summer:

Reduction of Paraffin Precipitation and Viscosity of Brazilian Crude Oil Exposed to Magnetic Fields
José L. Gonçalves, Antonio J. F. Bombard, Demetrio A. W. Soares, and Glaucia B. Alcantara
Energy & Fuels 2010 24 (5), 3144-3149

Studying the Mechanism of Magnetic Field Influence on Paraffin Crude Oil Viscosity and Wax Deposition Reductions
Nguyen Phuong Tung, Nguyen Van Vuong, Bui Quang Khanh Long, Ngo Quang Vinh, Pham Viet Hung, Institute of Materials Science-Vietnam NCNS; Vu Tam Hue, Petro Vietnam; Le Dinh Hoe, Vietsov Petro
SPE Asia Pacific Oil and Gas Conference and Exhibition, 17-19 April 2001, Jakarta, Indonesia

The Effect of Magnetic Radiation on Pipeline Transportation of Crude Oil
Zhang Weiwei, Zhang Guangyu, Dong Huijuan
"The Effect of Magnetic Radiation on Pipeline Transportation of Crude Oil," Digital Manufacturing and Automation (ICDMA), 2010 International Conference on , vol.2, no., pp.676,678, 18-20 Dec. 2010.

They provide a pretty clear trajectory that since 2001, people have been thinking about and exploring the possibilities of affecting the flow of crude oil with magnetic fields, so I'd hardly say that this will be the discovery of the past 20 years. Many of these results are cautiously optimistic, by exploring in what situations magnetic treatment is a better option over others. In fairness, some of these articles are pretty dated and should be read accordingly. However, when putting this post together I looked for any updates in the scientific journals and found this beauty, published this month:

The Effect of Magnetic Field on the Deposition of Paraffin Wax on the Oil Pipe
Zhang, Wei Wei, Ting Ting Wang, Xia Li, and San Chuan Zhang. "The Effect of Magnetic Field on the Deposition of Paraffin Wax on the Oil Pipe." Advanced Materials Research 788 (2013): 719-722.

...which argues that magnetic treatment demonstrate "a decrease of 50% in oil viscosity and a decrease in 87.5% in [paraffin] deposition rates." What is interesting about this study is that they attempt to study the rate of buildup inside the pipelines, which is something that most other studies (and our arguments here) have ignored, and found that it improved wildly as well. Unfortunately my University only has this journal up to 2011 so I'm not able to provide any details about their argument beyond what would be publicly available.

However, this set of articles paints a pretty clear picture. Scientists in North America, South America, and Asia have all been thinking about how it's possible to reduce viscosity and minimize deposition for over a decade. The scientific findings have already been reproduced across the globe. This is why your continued doubt on the basic science is analogous to creationism. You just insist on saying "no" when the facts are smacking you in the face.

As for how I would react if AOT got sent back? I'm not one for speculating improbable scenarios, but one thing that pouring through scientific journals have shown to me is that there is no such thing as 'crude oil' as they all have different impurities in different places. For instance, some forms of parrafin tend to crystallize and react better to magnetic treatment than others. AOT will work on plenty of pipelines and forms of crude oil around the world. But not all. Gonçalves (2010) and Gonçalves (2011, not posted) explore is that while EM treatments work wonders in some situations, it reacts really poorly in others. So if the skids get sent back, my response will be "Wow. That stinks. Looks like we should do better labwork next time to ensure that the place we're sending the AOT's are trying to pump the right types of crude oil"