Amanita Saturday, 06/29/13 01:57:28 PM Re: capnmike post# 40563 0 Post # of 45735 Wasn't this study done when ole Malcolm Philips was the GUY? Yes it was, In fact the study was done on the same machine that BAXA couldn't unload to anyone. The same machines that had to be returned for lack of sales and interest . The CCT wasn't available until 2008. The study was done from November 2005 to March 2006. The team that designed and built the Valimed bread box and the later CCT were Philips crew not Brumfield's post Bankruptcy crew. That being said both the Valimed bread box and the CCT are no longer manufactured or available. Then again the G4 isn't available either. Forgot to mention that ASD still gets royalties for the Valimed since it was based on their patents.