Observation: seems people are always complaining all OVER THE PLACE. Sigh.. One proponent of one COMMERCIAL site and corresponding thread has a beef with another COMMERCIAL site both of which for reasons that are known to everyone are said to have lost credibility because of a certain thread hosts supposedly being incarcerated for FRAUD, others accused of such, bla bla bla. These same threads.. have spawned way too many clones which are gung ho to attack on all kinds of grounds such as legitimate business practices, better results, whatever. Also seems that these same folks themselves have 0 tolerance for the truth, but can dish out innuendo and nonsense. Coming to a thread and posting nonsense and running to complain is not the conduct of a mature mind.
Grow up, this market has spewn many failures. If you are one of them, just try harder maybe you will do better next time. Try to learn that if you have a service that will attract and hold subscribers, a service that has results and has wonderful satisfaction and customer re-sign rate then it will run without constant pushing and pumping and beating of chests all over the place. Also it would help if you spent some time to research stocks a bit and are prepared to put in all the work it takes to be successful. But I guess its easier this way. Only I can't see what anyone gets out of it? Have a good life folks, and know we also know nobody is very impressed.
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