they should read this message board, we seemed to know it easily enough!!!! http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=85957658 http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=85967705 http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=3/21/2013&mkt_ctg=ALL etc, etc, etc.....