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Friday, 03/08/2013 10:54:49 AM

Friday, March 08, 2013 10:54:49 AM

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To answer all of the questions directed toward my statements let me say this-

JB made far reaching, overzealous and fantastic claims as far back as 2006 about P2O. Perhaps he believed them. However, as time and research continues and logical conclusions that should have been researched/drawn well before forming a public company have come to light, it is disturbing.

The problem is the same for every other P2O attempt (secret catalyst or not), and that is that the logistics and the value of plastic are greater than the value of the fuel that you can make from it.

Sure, it sounds great, too good to be true, very exciting, take garbage and turn it into fuel!

But the impression that the common person is guided into believing by JBI and its pompateers is that it is cheap and easy (FREE PLASTIC) to simply divert garbage directly into this magic machine and it comes out as fuel and solves the worlds plastic environmental problem.

The problem here is a common thread, recyclable plastic has a high value and its going up. This value is more than the fuel value.

The FREE plastic that goes to a landfill is going there for a reason, the cost involved to reclaim it from garbage is higher than its recycle market value.

The issue I have with JBI and the people that religiously preach its wonders is simple-

At some point it must become obvious that on paper this isn't sound and in the lab (JBI Plant) that it has proven that the facts and conclusions on paper are true.


JBI has a very limited machine that cannot handle all plastics nor can it handle a long list of common chemicals. This is because it is not designed to. The unintended chemical reactions that occur in a pyrolysis process are very problematic. The NYDEC Permit was written specifically to prevent those issues which in turn has further limited JBIs ability.

The biggest issue that JBI has now is not going to be in what it runs, it is going to be where to get something to run.

The limitation of only using non-recyclable plastic is the nail in the coffin.

This is because, once again, cost. it is like a stuck logic loop, go back to the above section on FREE plastic cost.

There are no sources of non-recyclable plastic that will not be worth more than the fuel that JBI can produce, and if there are due to lack of knowledge, I am quite sure there will be plenty of Plastic Recycle companies eager to educate the companies that are not yet on board with the recycling programs that can not only pay them for their waste plastic but also get them setup to receive extra cash from a recycle program subsidy.


Now, my problem is that JBI and its cheerleaders continue to make misleading statements, and they do not admit the truth. If this is intentional in order to sell stock and make money from it I do not know for sure but if I had to give a gut feeling based on the length of time and the grandiose fervor that is still ever so sharp, I would have to say yes, this is a directed deception designed to profit from others that are logically challenged and apt to believe too good to be true stories.