i have to thank ecmoney for getting me going, since he posted the CH-11 docs a few nights ago. what makes me think there's a good chance of this, is how easily it would solve the legal issues. montecito would get a public entity, volk would get to share in its success. we all would. having a judge preside over the exact terms of that settlement, even better. dot all the I's and cross the T's. :-)