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Re: goforthebet post# 26910

Wednesday, 12/19/2012 2:49:49 PM

Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:49:49 PM

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NOT EVEN CLOSE TO "100% germ free all of the time"

QUOTE: "Our machine will kill 100% of the microbes in any room it is used in. But it can't be used in EVERY room at the same time! The hospitals use Asepticsure in the important rooms, where the killing rate is 99.9999% but not in each room. so if 30% of a hospital is 100% germ free all of the time, then the total infection rate of that hospital will have been reduced by 30%.

"I hope that was clear enough.."

Not only is the above statement UNCLEAR it is also FALSE and MISLEADING!

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The suggestion that "30% of a hospital is 100% germ free all of the time" is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE with the EXACT OPPOSITE having been shown!

repopulation of the surfaces with microbes occurs within 24-48 hours of re-occupancy of an area by patients and personnel. (Hardy KJ, JHI 2007).

I hope that was clear enough

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Larry Garrone:
"Sodexo understands that in a busy hospital setting, a system that is too slow, very complex to use, or is costly will not be used often enough to have a meaningful impact on HAI rates."

Medizone:
"Shannon said that with this technology and a higher standard of cleanliness, hospitals could reduce the number of hospital-acquired infections by 20% to 30%." (thewhig.com)

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Mike Shannon acknowledges that Medizone's ozone/H2O2 process is TOO SLOW to hit every terminal clean (unlike Xenex) so tough luck for the incoming patient if the previous occupant of the room was, for example, colonized with/shedding MRSA and tough luck for the hospital when they discover that their HAI reduction rate is only 20% to 30%.

Mike Shannon: "Given the sum of our results, it now appears that a typical protocol might have a hospital perform a first cleaning of 95 minutes to fully sterilize the space, which would be followed by cleanings, perhaps as infrequently as one time per week for lower risk settings, requiring only 80 minutes to complete.

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June 08, 2011 MZEI Conference Call

"If each unit was employed to clean only 4 rooms a day, or 28 rooms a week...."

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A single Xenex machine can treat more rooms in a day(30+), including all terminal cleans, than Medizone's device can treat in a week so it not surprising to see hospitals using the Xenex technology getting results like these:

We've used the Xenex system for about 11 months now, we started last January. We have data for our first 9 months and we were really surprised to learn that our Clostridium difficile (C. diff) infection rate has gone down 67%

http://www.cooley-dickinson.org/Main/Xenex.aspx









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