I lost not a cent on the other one, I warned people for months just like I'm doing here. I get my information from TEVE's financials, and even their website, not much new, not many cloud customers, and the competition is enormous. Of course you say TEVE is the best in the world, wonder where you get that from, the TEVE website?? An award from some publication no one has heard of?? No the financials say it all and will continue to tell the true story.