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Re: F6 post# 194213

Tuesday, 11/27/2012 11:23:51 PM

Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:23:51 PM

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F6 - Bartlett is the best .. the NYT link (missed the 2004 post) i've just made it through with huge mixed emotions ..

gratitude - at seeing the question of "certainty" examined so .. certainty in so many complex and 'real' matters not based on good evidence is exposed as an inadequate and unsatisfactory approach .. has always been a pet peeve of mine .. as well as a burden, as it would be much more comfortable to be certain about so many things .. is difficult to carry uncertainty about so much, over so many years .. lol .. it's true ..

dread - in seeing a portrait of the Bush presidency i hadn't seen before .. Bartlett has always made sense and yes .. well, no point in echoing the first reply, eh .. yup, on the little i've read so far, i'd say Steph's comment, which i read before, would about say it all ..

this just for any who haven't yet read the first link, in the article .. it is really interesting stuff ..

"A couple of weeks before the 2004 election, Suskind wrote a long article [ http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html (at {linked in} http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=4311465 )] for the New York Times Magazine that quoted some of my comments to him that were highly critical of Bush and the drift of Republican policy. The article is best remembered for his quote from an anonymous White House official dismissing critics like me for being “the reality-based community.”

The day after the article appeared, my boss called to chew me out, saying that Karl Rove had called him personally to complain about it. I promised to be more circumspect in the future.

Interestingly, a couple of days after the Suskind article appeared, I happened to be at a reception for some right-wing organization that many of my think tank friends were also attending. I assumed I would get a lot of grief for my comments in the Suskind article and was surprised when there was none at all.

Finally, I started asking people about it. Not one person had read it or cared in the slightest what the New York Times had to say about anything. They all viewed it as having as much credibility as Pravda and a similar political philosophy as well. Some were indignant that I would even suspect them of reading a left-wing rag such as the New York Times.

I was flabbergasted.
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oh, afterthought .. i know Joe Biden better now, too .. a decent chap seems he .. :) .. the link is really a must read ..

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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