So when bulls or bears surrender in numbers, it's time for a market turn?... nice definition 1. The act of surrendering (under agreed conditions); "they were protected until the capitulation of the fort". I wonder for the housing bubble, how many "for sale" signs that equates too? Wouldn't everyone be bullish on housing if they own and or intend to pay the entire mortgage? Would over 50% of homes have to be for sale on the block for the bottom of a housing bubble pop to come? *Would it be like the recent bottom of the tech bubble pop which came in Ocotober 2002 from the March 2000 top???... ***Or would it have to be over 50% of MORTGAGE payees homes?... if so, how many people pay mortgages on their homes, what percentage?...