OTC: I think that measured isolationism put in place to serve a political or economic end is useful. I don't think that closing the USA to the rest of the world makes sense. Buchanon is a smart guy, I disagree with most of his thoughts, although I find him persuasive.
I think that if we isolated ourselves from the middle east and warned them and the rest of the world that terrorism in our country eminating from the middle east would be met with severe and brutual military punishment, we would then hold an edge. I am liberal in some regards and the most hawkish guy you could meet in others. After warning the world and our own citizens to stay out of dangerous areas, I would feel no remorse at bombing the crap out of them. We don't do it now becuase of ..... let me think...... OIL.
If I had been running the show 9/11, I would have most likely left the kid's reading time in Florida in about 30 seconds and ordered some bombs to start falling. Not very rational, but that's a good reason why I am not running the show. The fact that this administration did not know where to bomb that fast speaks volumes for the incompetance of Bush & Clinton, CIA and all other intelligence services.
We American's have been so used to watching movies and TV shows showing how great we are in the spy game when in fact we don't really know all that much.
Beating down Iraq is only a distraction. The terrorist are doing the planning and plotting all over the world. And we have 130,000 men and women risking their lives, and they will be in the wrong place at the wrong time when the next terrorist strike hits us.
Leaving the middle east takes away the excuse that Bin Laden and others use to hate us. They will have to cook up some other idea's.
We really don't disagree on the final results, just the method to getting at it. I prefer to think that my son will not be needed 10 years from now to fight in some war with no purpose.
REMEMBER THIS ONE?
Gimme an F!
F!
Gimme an I!
I!
Gimme an S!
S!
Gimme an H!
H!
What's that spell ?
FISH!
What's that spell ?
FISH!
What's that spell ?
FISH!
Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go out and get those reds —
The only good commie is the one who's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Huh!
Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go.
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.
And it's one, two, three
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
AI
