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Re: littemickey post# 21259

Sunday, 09/30/2012 3:26:10 PM

Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:26:10 PM

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Phoenix-10 Waste Oil Electrical Generator
Looks like the site has been updated since I saw it last.



http://www.phoenixpowergroup.com/phoenix-generators/phoenix-10-generator/
http://www.phoenixpowergroup.com/frequently-asked-questions/

"Marketing/Availability

How do you plan to market and sell it?

We are developing a distribution network in North America that will be managed by our strategic partner, Clean Burn.

How big do you anticipate the market to be for your genset?

Judging from the interest already generated (without any formal marketing) and our research, we believe there is a very large market waiting for the Phoenix-10. The North American market could generate 10,000 or more sales annually with world-wide sales equal to, or possibly exceeding, this estimate.

Do you plan to use manufacturer representatives?

Not at this time. We will go through a distributor network.

Do you plan to sell it outside the United States?

Yes. We have received significant interest from Europe, Asia, Africa, South America and numerous individual countries. Appropriate distributors will be brought on board in those locations as soon as appropriate.

When will it be available to the public?

Prototype beta testing is currently in progress. We will commence with a limited pilot program with select customers around 3Q 2012. If everything goes as planned, production should begin around 4Q of 2012.


Can I be a part of the pilot program?

Possibly. Please provide us with your contact information and we will review it with our team.

How much will a Phoenix-10 cost?

The exact cost has not been determined, but we project that it will be around $20,000 excluding installation. In addition, this excludes any available utility or local or manufacturer rebates, tax credits or other renewable energy incentives.

How long is the payback period?

This will vary depending on the location and utility electrical rates. However, we project that it should be approximately 36, depending on the local utility rates.

How does your 36-month payback time frame compare to other alternative energy sources such as wind and solar?

Even though technology advances are being made every day in these energy areas, wind and solar business models still struggle. The payback periods in these areas are in the 8 to 15 year range. In addition, they require a tremendous amount of operating space and are restricted to when the wind blows or the sun shines.

Are there any permits involved?

This is determined based on your local codes; however, the utility company will most likely have to approve the installation and associated grid-tie connections. Some states and local municipalities may have a degree of air-permitting requirements, but these are expected to be minimal with the burning of On-Specification oil.

What if I produce a large quantity of waste oil and want to produce more electricity?

Multiple gensets can be "daisy-chained" to increase electrical production. The number of gensets is a function of the available fuel. However, certain additional air-permitting requirements may apply in some areas.

What is the expected deliverable time between placing an order to actually installing the Phoenix-10?

We estimate initial orders should be delivered within 8 weeks of commencement of the pilot program, with future orders between 4 to 6 weeks.

Is financing available?

Yes. Various financing options will be available. Positive cash flow can be achieved within 12 months."
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