panther you really need to get your facts straight. im not with a herd, im all alone, im an individual. I have been with cnoz over a year and half. And their were people that were questioning the company a year ago when they were apparently starting their expansion and making of cones. Differnt names yet people questioned. They obviously were the smart ones to get out a year ago after making money on the bogus run up to .24 which was brought on by showing a rerun of a food network episode. So yea basically cnoz hasn't done anything since. they can mass produce? thats all good if they can but whos buying? haven't heard of huge purchase orders. just because they have the ability to produce doesn't mean they will. They have had the machine since jan. 2011 and yet no mass production or huge sales orders to date, so really panther the herd is calling you, surprised you aren't a part of the the jet life yet, ol barbs and makining it haven't let you in the loop yet? oh yea what about skipper too?