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Tuesday, 09/27/2005 6:46:33 PM

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:46:33 PM

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DD: Virgin Mobile as a SP...Lets try to connect some more dots here

First understand that Virgin Mobile operates as a Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO)

What is a MVNO?

http://www.mobilein.com/what_is_a_mvno.htm

Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO) is a mobile operator that does not own its own spectrum and usually does not have its own network infrastructure. Instead, MVNO's have business arrangements with traditional mobile operators to buy minutes of use (MOU) for sale to their own customers.

To date, MVNO's are mostly a European, GSM phenomenon. With many simple resellers in the United States gaining popularity, it is likely that the concept will catch on in the US and other parts of the world as well for the Mobile Virtual Network Operator (MVNO).


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Now understand Virgin Mobile's relationship with T-Mobile

http://about.virginmobile.com/about/us/history/

Virgin Mobile launched its operations as a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) in November 1999. As we are an MVNO, we operate a virtual network providing a broad range of mobile communications services to our customers over
T-Mobile's
network under our non-exclusive, minimum ten year term, telecommunications supply agreement with T-Mobile signed in January 2004.

Virgin Mobile started as a joint venture between Virgin and T-Mobile. In January 2004 in connection with the settlement of various disputes involving Virgin Mobile, T-Mobile and certain Virgin Group companies, Virgin purchased from T-Mobile all of the shares that T-Mobile owned in Virgin Mobile.


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Now lets understand more about T-Mobile

About T-Mobile International http://www.t-mobile-international.com/CDA/about_t-mobile,2,0,,en.html?w=1016&h=625

The mobile world has been changing rapidly in recent years and continues to do so. New technologies are driving innovative voice and data solutions for businesses and consumers. At the same time, one-product national businesses are moving into a complex multi-product service world. Just ten years ago, national operators with almost no international presence dominated their respective markets.

One of the global market leaders.
T-Mobile International is one of the world’s leading companies in mobile communications. As one of Deutsche Telekom’s three strategic business units, T-Mobile concentrates on the most dynamic markets in Europe and the United States. By the end of June 2005, more than 80 million customers are served in the nine T-Mobile markets. T-Mobile is a partner of FreeMove, an alliance formed by four of Europe’s leading mobile companies - Orange, Telefónica Móviles, TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile) and T-Mobile - to help their customers communicate as easily while travelling abroad as they do at home.

Global player in mobile communications.
T-Mobile International, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom, was established in December 1999. Since then, it has positioned itself as one of the largest international mobile communications carriers. It is the first to operate a trans-Atlantic mobile network based on GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications), the world’s most successful digital wireless standard. T-Mobile subsidiaries and affiliates were among the first operators worldwide to use future-oriented technologies like GPRS, UMTS (3G) and W-LAN.

T-Mobile Deutschland

Deutsche Telekom, within the group, holds direct or indirect investments in mobile communications companies in Europe and the USA. T-Mobile owns network operators in Germany (T-Mobile Deutschland), the United States (T-Mobile USA), Great Britain (T-Mobile UK), Austria (T-Mobile Austria), and the Netherlands (T-Mobile Netherlands). In the Czech Republic, it has a majority stake in T-Mobile Czech Republic, a major holding in Poland (PTC), as well as indirect shares in Belarus. In addition to these complete and partial ownerships of T-Mobile, Deutsche Telekom is represented with mobile operators in Hungary (T-Mobile Hungary) Croatia (T-Mobile Croatia),

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Where was Neom last week...Germany

Some including myself speculated that Neom was working a deal with Vodafone. That is still a very good possibility.

However, because of today's news with Virgin, and now understanding their relationship with T-Mobile, I now speculate Neom might have been working a deal with T-Mobile.

Either scenario would be fine with me. I just hadn't taken T-Mobile seriously until now after understanding more fully the connection with Virgin.

Looking forward to more news to clear this up.

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